leaders about the issue of gun control, and certainly something i feel very strongly, having been at cnn now for nearly two years and witnessed a number of outrages, and no apparent desire by any critical leaders to do anything really meaningful about them. >> yeah, it's -- it's really unfortunate. that somebody won't -- you know, take -- take the lead on this issue. gaby and i are both gun owners, we're supporters of the second amendment. but you don't believe that extends to high-capacity magazines and extends to making so easy to buy a gun in this country. especially in the state of arizona. you know, when -- after columbine and after virginia tech and what happens in tucson, there was certainly the opportunity for our elected leaders to try to do something about this. and what happened in arizona, after january 8th of 2011, what we got out of the state government was some pretty -- you know, statements that were very insensitive. exactly the opposite of what you might expect. i mean, this -- i think everybody would agree we have a problem. most people would. and we elect leaders to t